Robert
shullar one of the leading American Christian gospel preachers said in one of his book ‘tough time
never lasts but tough people do’ so was the world to describe Bishop livinus
Anuma ,who is now the presiding Bishop
of kingdom Life Ministry. Bishop Livinus Anuma is a man who has gone through a life of pains both in ministry and
in life generally.
The
painful aspect of this God’s general odyssey through the pilgrimage of life was
when he lost four of his beloved children within a spate or four months. While
he was still moaning the sudden death of his children, his church
was demolished and he was charged to court simultaneously.
In
this interview with , Bishop Livinus Anuma said “every problem you overcome introduces
you to another phase of life”. Stay back as we bring you excerpts from the
explosive encounter.
Tell
us about yourself and the kingdom Life ministries?
Thank
you. My names are Bishop Dr, Livinus Anuma. By the special grace of God i am the presiding Bishop of kingdom Life Ministries.
I became a Christian in 1968, and by the grace of God by 1970, I submitted to
the almighty God completely. I grew up in the United Church of Christ under the
late Apostle Egbo. I have planted many branches of U.C C. before God called me
out to start the kingdom Life Ministries. The church started in 1987 from my
house in Aguda in Surulere. From there it was moved to Odogbolu in the same
Aguda area. Again from there, the church moved to enita street opposite Aguda,
and finally to its present head quarters property.
What
have been your greatest challenges?
Kingdom
Life Ministries as a church has gone through a lot like the Biblical church of
Syria. For eighteen years the church was involved in a running court case
concerning the head quarters property.
When the enemy of the
gospel invaded our church building, destroyed it and made away with every thing
I labored for in many years, both themselves and their chief contractor (nameswithheld)
were full of themselves. A man who claimed he was a Christian I trusted and another fellow were harassing me always
on the phone as they boasted that they
would drop there Bible and deal with me. As God will have it after some time
the case turned against them.
From
then, the man that was hired against the church began to beg me ‘Daddy help me
I am only a contractor hired to pull down your church building. I will become
your church member’ at this point he knew that God was on our side.
HOW
DO YOU FEEL WHEN YOUR CHURCH FIRST DEMOLISHED?
I
felt very bad. I found myself in a state that the writer of Psalms 40 found
himself. My ministry kingdom Life Ministries had come under a serious attack
around July 2004. And on 29 August 2004
the same attacker struck at us again.
Knowing that he had the backing of the state government being a Muslim and
under a Muslim government, they took us to court. We continued our prayers and
rebuilt the church building again. By September 2004 they came and destroyed
the church building again. This same gang plotted to kidnap me. Their plans was
that they would come to arrest me at the police Headquarters G.I.D in Ikeja
with uniformed police and sixteen none uniformed police would come to pretend to
my defense, while pretending to be trying to save me they will force me in to
their van and whisk me away to an unknown
destination and end my life. But God brought me out of their plot and gave me
and the church victory.
In
the course of trying to recover the
church landed property that was
destroyed, we were told that you lost four of your children; how come?
This
is one area I don’t like talking about, because each time I think of the death
of my four children during my trial period,the pains becomes
afresh again.
It
is usually devastating losing loved ones, especially if you have shared strong
affinity with them over the years. Watching such people die could be very heart
breaking and demoralizing. If tears could bring back my four late children from
the dead, my Immeasurable sob would have done that the day I lost my four
children.
When, I lost my children I was devastated, to the extent that one day I asked
God a question ‘God are you still alive’? At a point in the united state of
America I almost committed suicide. In an attempted to do that God spoke to me
‘Don’t kill yourself my son, because if you do I will save you and still do my
job. You now understand why I don’t like to talk about it.
HOW
MANY CHILDREN DO YOU HAVE ,WHEN YOU LOST FOUR?
I
had seven children as at that time, but when I lost four I had three left. But
today I have four children, God has added one miraculously. In the year 1999,
my wife was sick and she went to see her doctor. Her doctor asked her to go do
a scan and she came back sorrowful that
scan said she was pregnant of a triplet. This time our last son was eight years
and we have put a full stop to child bearing. Before she left with her team to the
United States of America for a programme
the doctor said that one of the triplets has dissolved. In the U. S. the second
one left. Between the sixth and seventh month of her pregnancy she was very
sick that the Doctor decided to flush out the baby to save her life. After a successful evacuation of the thing in the
womb they were trying to revive my wife and one of the nurses said that she heard a noise in the
waste basket and behold the thing had life and this is the only daughter we
have and her name is favor. Our God is a miracle God. The enemy flushed her out
but our God flushed her back to life. To Him alone is the glory.
What
has life taught you? I have learnt to be patient in everything and also
my humility increases. Above all my respect for God is too much, because he
alone has the power to give and has right to take if he wants to.
Pastor’s
involving in ungodly things?
Let
me tell you, publish it ‘in Nigeria only few pastor’s are born again’ the
reason is because the church of God has been converted to a business center ,every body is an building
empire for his or herself. In that case they can go to any length to acquire
power to perform miracle. A pastor took a friend of mine to bar beach to meet a
woman who promised to give him a charm that will boost his church, on one
condition.
According
to my friend the condition was ‘if you can say with one once I will give you
thousand five hundred members and if you increase it to two times I will give
you five thousand members. Pastors this days are no longer born again
they are born against.
You
have a successful home what is your secret?
God
and his word are my secret. The true definition of the Bible simply means
‘Basic instruction before leaving the earth’ Building a successful partnership
takes a daily effort. Marriage is like a garden. If left unattended to and
uncultured, it will soon turn into weeds. Couples must constantly set goals for
themselves and their relationship.
A
healthy marriage cannot grow in an environment of competition, hatred,
boasting, jealousy, low self esteem or verbal abuses. Enjoy being together is
another practical way then can give your marriage an ending quality of success,
because spending time with one another creates a durable atmosphere for your
relationship to thrive. A young and successful business man married beautiful
lady and after their wedding, he told the lady to feel at home with all the
electronic gadgets, and feel free to take as much money as she needs from a
particular brief case in the house, while he travelled abroad for his business.
After one week he returned to find the house and his money intact. He traveled
the second time and found his house and money intact when he came back.
Amazingly, the third time he returned from his trip, he found a note that read
‘I married Joe and not electronic gadgets and money, if you are not prepared to
marry me, I will be gone’ without established common value, it is difficult to
hold any relationship together personal convictions should be shared and also
respected by the other partner. Let the wife manage the house keeping
allowance. Allow each other obey God without approval of each other. Because
the adhesive that keeps a husband and wife together, is ‘putting God first’
Christians,
including pastors are increasingly involved in divorces; what do you think is
responsible for this?
It
is very sad to see many marriages breaking up especially Christian marriages
.most times, these marriages break up in the first five years and one of the
reasons is because people are not prepared enough before going into marriage.
Every body, including Christians needs adequate preparation before going into
marriage. It is the responsibility of the leaders in the church to teach the
younger ones how to view marriage; we need to make them understand the role of
marriage in the society.
You
can only divorce your wife on one condition that is if she is caught in
infidelity. If nothing of such happens, why should you divorce your wife? The
bible says ‘what God has joined together, let nothing put asunder’.
Since
you relate with church members so well, what would you say is their greatest
problem?
Let
me say that number one problem is poverty. Many are poor and they need solution
to their poverty. There are a lot of marriages that are in shambles and a lot
of people who are going through psychological torture. People are looking for
who they can share their burdens with. A lot of people are being attacked by
the devil and all they just want is to be delivered. That is why any church I
go to, I usually ask God to give me direction on what to do to make impact. I
don’t go to members to beg anything, I wait on God that he will supply my needs
but I make sure that I carry the burden of the members because many of them are
hurting.
What
advice do you have for our leaders in this country?
Everything
happened in the year 1914, the year 2015 is around the corner, if our marriage
of hundred years cannot stay, let us divorce. Those people praying that Nigeria
should not break are hypocrites. So many lives have been lost and nothing is
being done. A lot of Igbos has died and killing of people still continues
unabated. It is time for us to review the age long marriage called Nigeria. If
going our different ways will save the lost of lives, it is better we go our
different ways.
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